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Joey And Rachel Should’ve Got Together In Friends



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16 years may have passed since the last episode of Friends first aired, but it’s time to set the record straight: there was only one man for Rachel and it wasn’t that wet lettuce, Ross Geller, it can only be Joey.

If there’s a more revered show than Friends I’ve yet to see it. It’s been described as ‘the world’s favourite sitcom’, and has had millions of people habitually clapping along to the intro since 1994. After 10 seasons and over 70 famous guest appearances, the cast became national treasures, and the only semi-tolerated divide in opinion is on who was the best character (ahem, Chandler).

So what I’m about to say is probably as controversial as the finale of Game of Thrones (which, fyi, was dreadful. Don’t even try to fight me on this one).

To set the scene, I recently binge-watched the entire 10 seasons of Friends within the space of a month. And what’s worse (cue the gasps): it was the first time I’ve seen it all the way through.

If you haven’t had an aneurysm or imploded from sheer, unadulterated disgust then yeah, I had all the usual reactions… Ross and Rachel were not on a break. Shouldn’t there be some law against Richard being that old but that hot? Chandler and Monica were made for each other. Oh and yeah, Rachel belongs with Joey.

Yeah, listen up people of the world, ‘cause I’m only gonna say this about 15 times:

Joey and Rachel should’ve got together

Yes, die-hard Friends fans, I can hear your collective groaning. But I couldn’t care less about lobsters, breaks or proms. I care about the fact that Ross was a miserable, whiney, jealous, possessive bore-fest. Someone who’d obsessed about trophy girlfriend Rachel from his early teens.

Sure, I ugly-cried when Ross and Rachel kissed in the doorway of Central Perk to that rousing guitar solo. But that was after a year of on-screen romantic tension, and before all his annoying in-a-relationship-with-Rachel traits came out.

So if you wanna know why Joey and Rachel should’ve absolutely got together, here it is:

6. Joey and Rachel were friends before anything happened

A solid relationship is often built on friendship, and Joey had been friends with Rachel for seven years before he realised he had feelings for her.

As a friend, he was always supportive of Rachel in every way. He encouraged her to quit her job at Central Perk and pursue her dreams – even getting her an interview at Fortunata Fashions. Yeah, it was short-lived… but Joey got Rachel onto the ladder of her dream industry. This is in direct contrast to Ross who only jeopardized her career through his jealousy and possessiveness.

5. Joey’s respectfulness allowed him to put her feelings first

Joey tried to forget about his feelings for Rachel. Despite him loving her, he encouraged Rachel to move out of their apartment and move in with Ross so that he could be more involved with his baby.

When Joey eventually admitted his feelings to Ross, he assured him that he wasn’t going to act on them. Ross ultimately gave Joey permission to tell Rachel… but it doesn’t take away from the fact that Joey had respect for them, and was a true friend to both.

Ross, on the other hand, slept with that girl from the copy place on the same day Rachel suggested they take some time out. Jerk.

4. Joey begged Rachel to stay at the apartment with the baby

Despite Joey’s love for the ladies, he begged Rachel not to move out, even though she was pregnant.

Most young, single guys with a pregnant roommate would be thanking their lucky stars if they offered to move out voluntarily. A baby can severely hamper game, y’know?

But not Joey. Despite Rachel reminding him that a baby would be noisy and take up a lot of space, he begged her not to move out – and that was before he even had feelings for her.

3. Joey fell in love with Rachel whilst she was pregnant

Women are beautiful whether they’re expecting or not. But most who’ve been pregnant will tell you that it’s probably the time they felt their most insecure appearance-wise.

But Joey fell in love with Rachel when she felt her most uncomfortable, and in spite of her being pregnant with his friend’s child.

He reassured her when she was scared, took her to the hospital when she was worried and was there for her in ways that Ross simply wasn’t.

2. Joey blew off a date simply to make Rachel feel special

Joey lived for two things: sex and sandwiches. He was prepared to take a bullet for a sandwich, and he was willing to sacrifice a night of passion for Rachel.

After some months of pregnancy, Rachel was sad that she wouldn’t be able to date again for some time and told Joey how much she missed it. Joey’s response wasn’t just a pat on the back and a fare thee well: he blew off his date to take Rachel out instead. He even picked her up at their door and bought her flowers.

He wanted her to know that she was still sexy and beautiful. Something we never thought we’d see from the guy whose pick-up line was “how you doin’?”.

1. Joey never loved anyone but Rachel

Everyone knows that Joey was the most promiscuous of the gang. But when it came to dating, he wasn’t a long-term kinda guy, and freaked almost as much as Chandler at the thought of commitment.

So for Joey to fall in love with anyone was a huge deal – even more so a person that he’d never so much as kissed.

In the space of 10 seasons, Ross had been in love with more women than Chandler had had witty one-liners.

Contrast that with Joey who, in 10 seasons of Friends, only ever said he loved one person…Rachel.


Joey’s love for Rachel had the best possible foundation: friendship. Not infatuation with his sister’s best mate because she was the most popular girl in school.

No, Joey fell in love with Rachel for Rachel. He supported her, encouraged her, cared for her, and believed in her.

He was the Noah to her Allie. The Romeo to her Juliet. And even when it didn’t work out for them, he accepted it graciously (take note, Geller) and did the thing that people who shared something special do: remained friends and never stopped caring about her.

Yes, no matter what anyone else says, Joey and Rachel should’ve got together. His love for Rachel was real and pure. And if that doesn’t get you in the feels, I dunno what will.

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Loki Episode 6 – Review



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Episode six of Loki from Marvel is here, streaming now on Disney Plus. It’s time for the series finale. Here’s our review.

SPOILERS: If you’re reading this then you’ve probably seen the show, but if not there are spoilers ahead.

More to come

The post-credit scene showed that a second series has already been ordered, meaning this finale is essentially the end of Part One. Thank goodness it is. Because if this was the denouement of the entire Loki story then there’s a good chance it would go down in television infamy as one of the more unusual series endings.

Introducing the big bad

We pick up from Sylvie and Loki’s defeat of The Alioth as they look at the citadel upon the rock at the end of time. They make their way to the entrance, and upon being invited in they’re met by Miss Minutes. It’s been widely predicted that ‘she’ would be an agitator in this series. And at last her role has been revealed. She is an emissary of Kang The Conquerer, embedded within the TVA.

She offers Loki the earth, almost literally, as she tries to coax him to betray Sylvie. Her offers of infinity stones, defeating Thanos etc. Happily, Loki rejects all the trinkets that she offers. Instead, he and Sylvie head into the lift where they meet ‘He Who Remains’ aka Kang The Conquerer. A 31st-century scientist and the true timekeeper.

Loki fight

Sylvie attempts to kill him but he quickly demonstrates some of his powers by dodging and weaving her before she gives in and the three of them sit down for a very long discussion. To sum up what was a lengthy and occasionally fairly tedious scene. He Who Remains (HWR) asks Loki and Sylvie to kill him and take over the role of controlling the timeline. Loki is extremely reticent but Sylvie, angry at what HWR’s meddling has done to her life, is desperate to do so.

Meanwhile, back at TVA HQ, Renslayer is informed by Miss Minutes of HWR’s plan. Showing her dual role and playing on Renslayer’s desperation to keep the TVA active and relevant.

Loki and Sylvie get into a physical fight over what to do with HWR. With Loki recognising how the timeline will fragment with branches springing up all over the place. But Sylvie is consumed by her rage and eventually overpowers Loki, sending him back to the TVA and then kills He Who Remains.

Setting up season two

Loki finds Mobius and tries to explain what has happened. But then discovers the terrible effects of what Sylvie has done by apparently killing HWR. Mobius has no idea who Loki is. This situation is then made worse when Loki looks out to see a statue of He Who Remains adorning TVA HQ. Loki realises that he is in a different timeline branch. One where HWR or Kang is in control of everything. Sylvie has been manipulated into apparently killing him which has enabled him to increase his power further.

Jonathan Majors was masterful as He Who Remains. Which is what you’d expect from someone with a Masters in acting from Yale. He was flamboyant, powerful and mesmerising, which is exactly what you want from a major villain. He will be back in AntMan 3 as Kang The Conquerer and is set to be the key villain in the next phase of the MCU post-Endgame and Thanos.

I have been extremely positive about this series, as I think it has been the strongest and most cohesive of the Marvel series so far this year. But I can’t disagree with anyone who felt short-changed by this finale. My 11-year-old son was pretty vocal in his disappointment the moment the credits rolled, and he was absolutely right. He is one of the most obsessive Marvel fans around and if he was underwhelmed, I feel pretty sure he was reflecting the majority view. Nothing I’ve seen online since has dissuaded me from that either.

Phase 4 groundwork

It seemed that the finale was essentially an exercise in introducing He Who Remains or Kang to our screens ahead of AntMan 3. While this isn’t necessarily a problem, it meant that the focus shifted away from being the climax of this series. Instead of being a prologue for the next phase of the MCU, which does seem a peculiar decision.

There are those who feel that the series original premise of Loki and Mobius teaming up to find Variants dotted around time and space was dropped after the first two episodes. Instead, it was replaced with a love story between Sylvie and Loki and a voyage of discovery with Mobius reduced to a bit part for the rest of the series.

But, the cliffhanger at the end of the series as Loki returns to the TVA does give me hope that Series Two will be an even better follow up.


Thank you for reading our review of Loki episode six. Do you agree or disagree with our points or have anything to add? If so, leave us a comment below.

Read our Loki episode five review HERE.

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